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03-04-2020, 10:58 PM | #112 | |
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All coaches make mistakes, pretty sure we blew a nice lead vs Colgate, & Bowling Green. It happens. I do feel uc was shafted a lot with playing teams who were under seeded. When we played Kansas state (won) they were a lot higher in kenpom then other 11 seeds. They were 30, we were 23.. didn’t feel like a 6 vs 11 matchup Harvard was really good that year and under seeded. What kinda 12 seed Is 32 in kenpom? UCLA had no business being a 3 seed, they were 31-5 Iowa was 36 in kenpom, we were 35... yet it was a 7 vs 10 Nevada was #23 in kenpom and yet a 7 seed |
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You can add 2012 Texas to that list. They were 32 as an 11 seed.
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03-05-2020, 07:24 AM | #116 | |
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So when I say that they were under seeded, I just mean that on paper it looks like a 6 vs 11 matchup, but when yuh compare the quality of each team, it’s much more of a toss up. If you look at Xavier’s recent tourney success. They played a lot more over seeded teams or had the luck factory break there way. We just haven’t gotten that lucky break yet |
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One would hope in 9 years you could squeeze out an Elite 8 or F4 run at least once. But in reality we had only 1 team that had a legit chance to make that happen. And although I disagree slightly with the randomness crowd...if you have 1 chance...randomess has a much better chance of affecting that outcome. If we had 2 or 3 more teams with a protected seed the probability would be we can make something out of at least one of those chances. It's not easy putting together a top 10 or 15 team in our conference. So we either accept that and live with madness mediocrity or we don't accept that and we attempt to make a change in hopes of finding a better solution. It will be difficult for any coach but not impossible. I am in the camp of trying to get better results even if we risk taking a step back (or two). We will have to wait and see how it goes. |
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03-05-2020, 07:49 AM | #119 | |
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Dude. I just mentioned the issue with seeding. And that if we’re 6 seed, we’ve generally played the best 11 seed In the field and it’s usually a long way from home. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have won more of those games, but I’m just calling it out using the same metric I’ve been waiting for years. For example: uc was a 6 seed, entered the tourney as a 22 in kenpom. We played the 11 seed Kansas state, who was 28th heading in that game. We Xavier, they were an 11 seed that year. They came in with a kenpom of 39. And they played a 6 seeded Maryland who came into that game as a 46 in kenpom. Xavier was able to be an 11 and play 6 seed who they were 6 spots better. They won by 11 They sent played florida state, who was 26 in kenpom as a 3 seed. We played UCLA, a 3 seed. That’s just one year too. |
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Just an FYI... in the last 10 year. 5 teams out of 40 made the final four from a non power league. One was UConn who made it with big East players. That’s a 12.5% chance to make the final foul from our league in a 10 year sample size. Final fours are hard. I don’t have expect one from CJB. Because it’s silly. |
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