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Old 04-14-2021, 12:12 PM   #61
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Getting paid $1mil plus year isnít easy either. I bet I could find 6-7 players fit that system before I find $1mil dollar gig
Hahahaha! 10 points on that!!

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Old 04-14-2021, 12:18 PM   #62
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I think positionless BB is the overall point here. And our last HC was all about that. And I also agree it's where I want the program to go.

But we have to be reasonable and get the guards who can play PG at times and maybe up to the 3-4 position. That is perfectly fine. Our bigs we would like to be able to play the 5 down to 3-4 in a perfect scenario.

1-5 is not happening ever for a 13 man rotation at UC or probably anywhere for that matter. And even if we get a few who can man several positions...we will need the role players who cannot.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:22 AM   #63
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Attached are Evan Miya's ratings for last year's team. MAW and Mason are rated higher than Davenport because of JD's poor defense. Mikey gets an especially bad defensive rating. John Newman will instantly become our best player according to this metric. Last year he had a 34.1 overall BPR (-8.6 offense, 42.7 defense). The previous year he was 37.9 overall (1.5 offense, 36.3 defense).

I think BPR weighs team performance a little too heavily, but this could be a good tool for evaluating defense instead of relying on proxy stats like steal + block and foul rates. It incorporates individual stats, plus/minus, team efficiency, and leverage (stats when the game is a blowout don't count as much).
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:27 AM   #64
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Here is the full roster including players with too small a sample of minutes. Harvey's defense gets a terrible rating, which is probably why he didn't play as much as it seemed like he should have. Rap surprisingly had a positive defensive rating.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:33 AM   #65
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Harvey's numbers really surprised me on defense.


The big thing with these numbers here are why I don't think Davenport can be a 4. He simply cannot defend that position. He was our best offensive player, but overall 5th best because of his defense?


Also I don't know what I think about Saunder's defensive rating either.


Diarra and Rob Banks the only ones negative on offense and defense.
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:22 PM   #66
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Davenport absolutely canít play 4, Tari barely could. Itís no surprise Newman would be our highest rated player by this metric. Heís our highest rated recruit by far
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:04 PM   #67
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I don't think Davenport can really guard the 3 either because he isn't very quick. He's best suited as a hybrid 3/4 that we can play to matchups. We can hide him against average stretch 4s or wings who aren't slashers.

The nice thing is JD, Saunders, and Mason are all young and should be able to improve their defense under Wes.
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Attached are Evan Miya's ratings for last year's team. MAW and Mason are rated higher than Davenport because of JD's poor defense. Mikey gets an especially bad defensive rating. John Newman will instantly become our best player according to this metric. Last year he had a 34.1 overall BPR (-8.6 offense, 42.7 defense). The previous year he was 37.9 overall (1.5 offense, 36.3 defense).

I think BPR weighs team performance a little too heavily, but this could be a good tool for evaluating defense instead of relying on proxy stats like steal + block and foul rates. It incorporates individual stats, plus/minus, team efficiency, and leverage (stats when the game is a blowout don't count as much).
Interesting stuff...thanks for sharing!
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Iíll post Synergy numbers later to compare and see how much they differ
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Old 04-23-2021, 09:27 PM   #70
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A comparison between (Synergy) defensive grades posted by Justin and Evan Miya's [BPR] defensive ratings:

MAW: (82% Very Good) [17.7 Good]
JD: (68% Very Good) [-4.7 Average]
DDJ: (80% Very Good) [5.6 Above Average]
Madsen: (34% Average) [6.6 Above Average]
Mikey: (29% Below Average) [-14.6 Below Average]
Hensley: (34% Average) [6.3 Above Average]
Koval: (64% Good) [16.0 Good]
Newman soph: (84% Excellent) [36.3 Excellent]

I made up my own categories for BPR with -5 to 5 being average, 5-15 above average, 15-25 good, 25-35 very good, and 35+ excellent. I might even add an elite category for the 18 players across the country who had a rating of 45+ (Gary Clark achieved it in his junior and senior seasons, as did Caupain, Evans, and Brooks in their final seasons as Bearcats). There were 5 players worse than -45. I'll take suggestions on what to call that category.

There is agreement on most players. The only two players with more than one category of separation are DeJulius and Davenport, with a three category difference for Davenport. Synergy is higher than BPR on both of them.

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