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Old 01-17-2020, 08:50 AM   #91
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Tre Scott is rocking out a 78.6 ORTG vs top 100 teams and a 51.2 ORTG vs top 50 teams.


He's shooting 18.8% from the field vs top 50 teams on 32 shots.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:09 AM   #92
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They were guarding the perimeter all night and not worried about getting beat and funneling all the shots to the rim where they are #1. They weren't calling fouls either making matters worse. I don't like the long and mid range two but I don't mind pulling up just short of the rim protector and hitting a close range bank or floater. Or when the shot blockers come in for the kill dish the ball off to the open guy. MAW had a brilliant assist in the lane and had the sense not to try to get a shot off in the trees. We needed more plays like that.

Instead we had full speed plays to the rim and either clanked it off the rim (because it's VERY difficult to make a full speed layup) or we got stuffed. Then we telegraphed about 4 entry passes...we were late on most of those.

Oh well...it wasn't a good matchup for this team. I hope we can beat them at home with a different strategy.
The fouls were a big difference in the game. Memphis will always be hard to score on because of size but if they call that game even a little bit tighter, if a different game. They weren’t calling anything for either team. There were times we clearly fouled them and the refs did nothing. Not sure what was going on
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:10 AM   #93
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If Memphis can foul, they are impossible to score on in the paint. Have to have the refs call something to at least keep them honest
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:43 AM   #94
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They were guarding the perimeter all night and not worried about getting beat and funneling all the shots to the rim where they are #1. They weren't calling fouls either making matters worse. I don't like the long and mid range two but I don't mind pulling up just short of the rim protector and hitting a close range bank or floater. Or when the shot blockers come in for the kill dish the ball off to the open guy. MAW had a brilliant assist in the lane and had the sense not to try to get a shot off in the trees. We needed more plays like that.

Instead we had full speed plays to the rim and either clanked it off the rim (because it's VERY difficult to make a full speed layup) or we got stuffed. Then we telegraphed about 4 entry passes...we were late on most of those.

Oh well...it wasn't a good matchup for this team. I hope we can beat them at home with a different strategy.
Wasn’t that bad a matchup. Even game before the tech. We also out rebounded them. Home team is supposed to win in even matchups. They got a few big calls. Made a couple more shots. Which home teams tend to do
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:44 AM   #95
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In all four of our Q1 games so far (OSU, Iowa, Xavier, Memphis), we allowed our opponent to make an early 2nd half run that typically resulted in a significant deficit. In each game (with Xavier being the weakest example) we responded with a run of our own that put us in a position to compete over the last 4-5 minutes and we ultimately couldn't get the buckets or stops needed to even have a chance at pulling these games out.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:54 AM   #96
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Wasn’t that bad a matchup. Even game before the tech. We also out rebounded them. Home team is supposed to win in even matchups. They got a few big calls. Made a couple more shots. Which home teams tend to do
Some of the guards wings (after putting the ball on the floor) don't know how to drop it off or make the skip pass. They just go for the rack. We needed more guys who could recognize when their first idea isn't going to work.

Jarron can do this. MAW did it once. Tre and Keith go to the rack once their mind is made up they can't seem to use option B (or C) sometimes. They (memphis) were super aggressive sending a couple guys for the block...we need to recognize this.
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Some of the guards wings (after putting the ball on the floor) don't know how to drop it off or make the skip pass. They just go for the rack. We needed more guys who could recognize when their first idea isn't going to work.

Jarron can do this. MAW did it once. Tre and Keith go to the rack once their mind is made up they can't seem to use option B (or C) sometimes. They (memphis) were super aggressive sending a couple guys for the block...we need to recognize this.
Tre just might not be able to go to the level of those players. As someone mentioned, he really struggles with better competition. He needs to just stop shooting mid range jumpers. He should either shoot a 3 or layups.

We need a talent upgrade. We all knew that. It’s hard to beat teams like that consistently.

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Old 01-17-2020, 01:03 PM   #98
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Tre just might not be able to go to the level of those players. As someone mentioned, he really struggles with better competition. He needs to just stop shooting mid range jumpers. He should either shoot a 3 or layups.

We need a talent upgrade. We all knew that. It’s hard to beat teams like that consistently.
He's at 18% on threes. I don't think he should shoot outside of 8 ft and he needs to slow the F down on offense
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:05 PM   #99
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Tre just should Not try to score.

He’s a good passer, good defender and a really good rebounder.

The only time he should shoot is if he absolutely has to.
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:10 PM   #100
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But again.. this system doesn’t really work for Tre offensively

Here is his offensive rating last 3 years:
Freshman: 104.8
Soph: 115.7
JR: 112.8
SR: 96.3


JR & SR usage rate just about the same too

Let’s not Just shit on Tre all the time. He didn’t sign up to play this style of basketball.

He was an efficient offensive player his whole career until the coaching change.

If we’re giving John Brannen Grace then you better give tre some too
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