Tulane Game Thread

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by cincyguy13

If rebounding is an issue, zone wouldn't help but it's worth a shot at this point I guess.

We’ve played a matchup zone for years and still rebounded fairly decent.

We have nothing to lose.

[waterhead]

Originally Posted by skyblade

Their center was 5-5, the rest of their team only shot 30%. Playing a zone would have defended their center than having Vogt on him did.

Even with Diara in I would have let Zhang bomb 30 footers. But I would have rather Vogt been able to score 8 more points in the mean time

[cincyguy13]

Originally Posted by skyblade

Their center was 5-5, the rest of their team only shot 30%. Playing a zone would have defended their center than having Vogt on him did.

Did you watch the game? I know at least 2 of those were when Vogt was not in the game, or guarding him. Are we blaming him for all 5 even though he wasn't in the game? Let me know.

[skyblade]

Originally Posted by cincyalum2014

McNeal is useless, If Jaevin isn’t hitting shots he is useless, liability on defense.. Jarron turned it on for about 10 minutes... Keith was great in the first half and then horrifying in the second half, Tre Scott was Tre Scott, Chris Vogt couldn’t defend the Asian kid who was nailing 3’s, JB should have made an adjustment, Diarra played a great game IMO, he deserves more minutes, Davenport played well when in, give him McNeals minutes

Yeah, I thought Davenport and Diarra played well. McNeal and Jaevin a such major liabilities (on opposite ends of the court) that I wouldn't mid letting someone else earn their minutes. Jaevin can be great when the threes are falling, but that seems to not be happening lately.

Tulane went after Vogt all night and he wasn't up to the challenge. Hard to say a guy who scored 21 points hurt us more then he helped us, but he may have.

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by Goldpanner

Tulane shot what? 50% 3 pointers. Zone would not be the answer

Dude we foul a crap ton. A lot of it is because we can’t guard. A zone by nature helps hide poor defenders and helps the fouling issue.

3 pointers rarely beat you alone if you don’t foul and allow easy buckets.

[cincyguy13]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

We’ve played a matchup zone for years and still rebounded fairly decent.

We have nothing to lose.

The zone is harder to rebound out of. That's why teams don't run it but I agree, why not throw it in there every once in a while. Can't hurt at this point.

[Goldpanner]

Originally Posted by cincyguy13

Did you watch the game? I know at least 2 of those were when Vogt was not in the game, or guarding him. Are we blaming him for all 5 even though he wasn't in the game? Let me know.

Scott was on him for at least 2 of them. Williams on the other

[justinhub2003]

Lol I mean we’re cincinnati and we just allowed 76 points from Tulane and people are defending the current strategy.

I’ve dropped my bias. Every one drop theirs too,

We suck at defense.

And it seems Brannen has very little respect for other coaches considering he makes no adjustments at half when seemingly the other team is.

Perfect example: Chris Mack can’t coach defense and is a packline defense guy. But when Xavier was at its best a few years ago, it was because he was willing to mix up a 1-3-1 that confused so many teams.

[skyblade]

Originally Posted by cincyguy13

Did you watch the game? I know at least 2 of those were when Vogt was not in the game, or guarding him. Are we blaming him for all 5 even though he wasn't in the game? Let me know.

Not blaming him for all 5 (I believe he was 3-3 over Vogt, 1-1 over Sorolla and 1-1 over Keith). But him pulling Vogt to the perimeter hurt us way more than just him hitting threes.

Vogt on the perimeter takes away our interior defender and makes Vogt useless for defensive rebounding. Besides that, Tulane also put Vogt in a lot of pick-and-rolls and had a fair amount of success with it. There's a reason Brannen went to Diarra at center for a while this game.

[cincyguy13]

Originally Posted by skyblade

Not blaming him for all 5 (I believe he was 3-3 over Vogt, 1-1 over Sorolla and 1-1 over Keith). But him pulling Vogt to the perimeter hurt us way more than just him hitting threes.

Vogt on the perimeter takes away our interior defender and makes Vogt useless for defensive rebounding. Besides that, Tulane also put Vogt in a lot of pick-and-rolls and had a fair amount of success with it. There's a reason Brannen went to Diarra at center for a while this game.

You haven't given me a solution. Maybe you have, I don't know. But you either want him guarding his man or protecting the rim? He can't do both, and you need he's offense. So what's the solution?