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Old 03-18-2021, 07:17 PM   #651
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:20 PM   #652
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Seems like that's where the fan investigation is going. There's a recently started thread over on 247 that Brannen had problems at NKU to (it's VIP though and I don't pay for access). I imagine details will start to come out fairly quickly as NKU is local enough for a lot of people to be connected.

Hopefully the university is following the same course on their investigations. As I mentioned elsewhere, Cincy Slangin claims that it will cost us 500k less to fire Brannen after April 1st (not sure where they get that from though), so I'm going to continue to hold out hope until then.
I think we need him to keep recruiting as long as thereís no replacement.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:26 PM   #653
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Has anyone heard anything that he could be fired over? If so, Iíd love to hear it. I get the whole team left but I donít think he can be fired for that. He was mean or lied to a player? If heís getting fired with cause, you have to come stronger than that
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:29 PM   #654
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Has anyone heard anything that he could be fired over? If so, Iíd love to hear it. I get the whole team left but I donít think he can be fired for that. He was mean or lied to a player? If heís getting fired with cause, you have to come stronger than that
Carl on twitter seems to think they are looking into it...

I'm not buying it.
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I think we need him to keep recruiting as long as thereís no replacement.
Yeah, I expect Brannen to keep recruiting up until the day he is fired (if he is fired). The silence from administration makes sense if they are waiting until April 1st to fire him (or if they are still investigating).

They don't want to come out with a statement of support only to fire Brannen days later. They also don't want to put out anything that will negatively effect Brannen's recruiting. If they are waiting until April 1st they also won't want Brannen to know they are going to fire him, since they want him to keep recruiting until his last day.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:33 PM   #656
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Carl on twitter seems to think they are looking into it...

I'm not buying it.

Article says the players went to the AD so they have to do they investigation.


But my guess uC would love to find cause. Because just the optics of all this is going to make it so damn hard for John to recruit at a high level.

Every competing coach in America is going to use that athletic article against Brannen.

We need to shake the staff to ASAP and at least show some changes optically
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:35 PM   #657
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Has anyone heard anything that he could be fired over? If so, Iíd love to hear it. I get the whole team left but I donít think he can be fired for that. He was mean or lied to a player? If heís getting fired with cause, you have to come stronger than that
I'm not sure what exactly the contract requires for firing with cause. There's been discussion that they could argue that requirements not to wear things like do rags could qualify as racially insensitive, but that sounds like a stretch. Perhaps negatively effecting players mental health.

My best bet is if he's going to be fired they will find enough to threaten to fire with cause and fight it out in court later. Then use that to hopefully negotiate Brannen down to a more manageable settlement.
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Yeah, I expect Brannen to keep recruiting up until the day he is fired (if he is fired). The silence from administration makes sense if they are waiting until April 1st to fire him (or if they are still investigating).

They don't want to come out with a statement of support only to fire Brannen days later. They also don't want to put out anything that will negatively effect Brannen's recruiting. If they are waiting until April 1st they also won't want Brannen to know they are going to fire him, since they want him to keep recruiting until his last day.
You canít hire a new coach in a day. We lose the biggest transfer market in history if we were to fire now. You fire him and start a coaching search and that coach is way behind the 8 ball again
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You canít hire a new coach in a day. We lose the biggest transfer market in history if we were to fire now. You fire him and start a coaching search and that coach is way behind the 8 ball again
Exactly, especially with so many spots to fill. They should just fire that little assistant coach.

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I'm not sure what exactly the contract requires for firing with cause. There's been discussion that they could argue that requirements not to wear things like do rags could qualify as racially insensitive, but that sounds like a stretch. Perhaps negatively effecting players mental health.

My best bet is if he's going to be fired they will find enough to threaten to fire with cause and fight it out in court later. Then use that to hopefully negotiate Brannen down to a more manageable settlement.
If you are going to fire a guy with ďcauseĒ, you better have a strong case or it will cost you more money than buying the guy out. I havenít heard anything that comes close to being able to fire the guy without paying him.

Even Justin Williams on mo egger today said the players said it wasnít abuse or mean spirited, it was more of a trust issue. Thatís not going to do it.
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