12-13-2015, 05:19 AM | #561 |
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up tempo looked good against cupcakes but against better competition we look very average. we do not make enough shots. Fact is we are the not a very athletic team either. Probably our three most athletic players are turnover machines. Ellis,Shaq and KJ.they combined for 11 of 16 TO's. Walking the ball up the floor versus running is not the issue. We got out played by a better team with better players. Their 1-3-1 zone killed us.
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12-13-2015, 06:40 AM | #562 | |
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Of the teams that made the sweet 16 last year 10 had a AdjT of 150th or lower, 6 220 or lower. 4 elite 8 teams had an AdjT of 223 or slower. Final 4 had 3 teams with AdjT of 245 or slower. Sweet 16 teams with tempo in the top 100? 4, of those only 1 got to the elite 8 and 0 to the final 4. That is what reality is. People can think whatever they want, but the facts are the facts. We did not lose because it was a slow game. We get beat in that game no matter how many possessions there are because we are flat out not good enough as a team right now. That's it. Until Mick finds a way to coach offense we are going to be screwed. Until he learns to teach the team to attack a defense instead of throw lollipop passes for 20 seconds 30 feet from the basket, we're going to be screwed. Those are the real issues. Well that and the fact we are so careless with the ball. Wanna know why we lost yesterday? We made it a 7 point game with 12:44 to go. Our next possession was a turnover, next possession was a turnover, next possession was a turnover, next possession was a layup, next possession was a turnover, next possession was a turnover. We went from the 12:44 mark to the 9:00 timeout and took 1 shot and turned it over 5 times. |
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12-13-2015, 06:43 AM | #563 |
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I don't get it. We had a week to prepare for the 1-3-1. A defense everyone knew we would see. What do we do? Pass the ball back and forth and across court above the key. I'm surprised we did not have more turnovers. We either have to beat the front man of this zone off the dribble or get the ball to the elbow. Either or and we will beat that defense. We did neither. Once the ball goes into the elbow or the guard breaks down the defense, then we pass to forwards on the baseline when the three move to up to help. Don't get it.
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12-13-2015, 07:26 AM | #564 | |
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I might also add they are the better team. |
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12-13-2015, 08:12 AM | #565 | |
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I don't care about pace, toughness, turnovers or any of anyone else's excuses. You can't come into Cintas and score 55 points and leave with a win, it's as simple as that. I don't care why it happened I just care that Mick fixes it and finally once and for all realizes that his philosophies on basketball are dogshit. |
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12-13-2015, 08:13 AM | #566 |
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What a terrible game we played! We have no offensive consistency. Unless
Mick does something special with this team the rest of the season, then maybe it's time to move on. We have all of our starters back from last year & we can't make baskets on a consistent basis. I AM SO FREAKN' TIRED OF HEARING YOU DON'T WIN WHEN YOU DON'T PLAY DEFENSE. "News Flash" you don't win if you don't put the ball in the basket & out score the opponent. For ten years we have had terrible, pathetic offensive teams. I'm sick and tired of playing patsies prior to the conference season & then can't beat XU. I have been a Mick supporter since day one but my patience has run out. We need to recruit shooters & basketball players with basketball skills. It's BS when Mick says today's players are taught the basics & he has to teach them at the college level. XU makes shots from all over the court, can dribble, rebound, play defense & beat the crap out of us on a consistent basis. Just my humble, pissed off over losing to XU again, opinion. |
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Stop and think about this. Has ANY team of UC 's caliber ( forget about what that is for a moment) EVER had a starting 5 who simply have not mastered or simply do not understand the art of......PASSING!!!! Whether it's finding the proper angle on an entry pass or passing out of a double team or passing against a 1-3-1 defense. That to me is the most remarkable aspect of not just this edition but most all of UC's teams under MICK. Sadly the best 2 passers on the team are the 2 freshmen and their minutes are limited because of supposed defensive liabilities. I would spend the next 10 practices on passing fundamentals and drills. Watching XU pass and UC was like watching a jr. High and college team. Sure they can make passes vs. cupcakes, but not quality teams. We have become XU 's bi**h.
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12-13-2015, 08:55 AM | #570 |
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You guys are making some really astute points. And the more thought I give it, the more obvious it becomes. You win at this level with guards, or at least a player or two with the ability to do something off the bounce - drive, create a shot for himself or someone else, etc. Honestly, it looks like the only guy with a desire to do that is Shaq and unfortunately, his dribbling skills are eerily similar to mine?
Is Troy that guy? Honestly? Or is it like some have said here - that Troy is playing out of position and needs to be off the ball? I'm slowly getting to the point where I'd rather hand the keys over to Jenifer and Evans, live with their rookie mistakes, and let them roll. Jenifer at least shows some desire to make plays, along with some skill. Defense is an issue but it's not like Troy didn't get caught out of position 3-5 times yesterday. Walk it up all you want but RUN AN OFFENSE. |
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