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Old 05-23-2019, 09:04 AM   #1191
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Had to go look when you said that. Here's a link to the picture.

https://www.newsrecord.org/sports/at...4dc8e299c.html

I have to agree based on the picture. Though Prince did reclassify, so he's young, maybe he has grown? But I think he came in listed a 6'7", which is obviously incorrect. He is right around the same height as Williams and Fredericks, who are both listed as 6'5". If we are generous Prince is at most 6'5.5" in that picture.

Hardnett looks 6'8" though - or 6'7" at the minimum.

I've been thinking Prince would be our future PF and Hardnett our future SF based on what I know of their basketballs skills and where/how they played in HS. Based on that picture I think I have it backwards.


you can be a PF at 6'5 in college. its about how you use your body. if you've got the moves you'll be fine.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:07 AM   #1192
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I just went to look at Fredericks recruiting page (on this forum) and the first post had him listed as 6'8". I mean come on. He is at the very most 6'5". I saw further down the thread where Chad corrected it to at least say 6'6"...but he is probably not even that based on the team pic.

The only reason I can see for adding "fake height" is in the recruiting process to get some coaches to come out and talk to you.


yeah this is all over for basically every player. i pretty much ignore any of that stuff i see. height and vert are the 2 that get lied about all the time.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:23 AM   #1193
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you can be a PF at 6'5 in college. its about how you use your body. if you've got the moves you'll be fine.
Hicks was listed at 6'7" but I think he may have been closer to 6'6". It can be done. He played along side Maxiel his JR year and MCGowan his SR year both listed at 6'7". Fortson was 6'7" and an All American.

Technique and brute strength can get the job done. 6'5" might push the limits but as you mentioned...it's still doable.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:10 AM   #1194
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SMU won the league in 16/17 with a 6-man rotation that was pretty short in height. They went something like 6'6, 6'3, 6'5, 6'5, 6'7, 6'8.

We could possibly duplicate that with a line-up of Jaevin, Jarron, Keith, Moore/Prince, and Diarra/Scott.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:21 AM   #1195
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Hicks was listed at 6'7" but I think he may have been closer to 6'6". It can be done. He played along side Maxiel his JR year and MCGowan his SR year both listed at 6'7". Fortson was 6'7" and an All American.

Technique and brute strength can get the job done. 6'5" might push the limits but as you mentioned...it's still doable.


i think hicks was closer to 6'5 than he was 6'7
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:22 AM   #1196
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You can combat being a 6’5 power forward with long arms, elite athleticism and a strong wide frame. Charles Barkley was like 6’4 but had near 7 ft wingspan, and a wide frame.

Also... There are different kinds of athleticism. Having a elite 2nd jump helps guys who are short because they can make their second jump quicker.

Prince looks to have pretty athleticism. I think he ends up being really good

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Old 05-23-2019, 11:26 AM   #1197
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You can combat being a 6’5 power forward with long arms, elite athleticism and a strong wide frame. Charles Barkley was like 6’4 but had near 7 ft wingspan, and a wide frame.

Also... Their are different kinds of athleticism. Having a elite 2nd jump helps guys who are short because they can make their second jump quicker.

Prince looks to have pretty athleticism. I think he ends up being really good

he looks to have a really quick first jump too which is nice.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:56 AM   #1198
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i think hicks was closer to 6'5 than he was 6'7
I found a solid source. Very interesting article by the way on pre draft measurements. This was from 2006. I wish they had his wingspan for him because I seem to remember it being considerable. The reason they are talking about 6'5.5" vs 6'6" is because the article said some players hurt themselves by wearing lower shoes. .75" vs the average 1.25" sole. Hicks must have been one of them...lol! He could have measured in 1/2" (or more) taller with the right shoes.

Take Cincinnati’s Eric Hicks for example. The Cincy website listed him at 6’6”. He came in at 6’4.75” w/o shoes and only managed to squeak out 6’5.5” with shoes. For him, a solid 6’6” would have probably looked better than the 6’ 5½ he just recorded. A future in Europe is almost certainly in his near future. -

Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...urements-1349/ ©DraftExpress
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I found a solid source. Very interesting article by the way on pre draft measurements. This was from 2006. I wish they had his wingspan for him because I seem to remember it being considerable. The reason they are talking about 6'5.5" vs 6'6" is because the article said some players hurt themselves by wearing lower shoes. .75" vs the average 1.25" sole. Hicks must have been one of them...lol! He could have measured in 1/2" (or more) taller with the right shoes.

Take Cincinnati’s Eric Hicks for example. The Cincy website listed him at 6’6”. He came in at 6’4.75” w/o shoes and only managed to squeak out 6’5.5” with shoes. For him, a solid 6’6” would have probably looked better than the 6’ 5½ he just recorded. A future in Europe is almost certainly in his near future. -

Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...urements-1349/ ©DraftExpress


yeah, dude wasn't even 6'5. and he was a beast.
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