Huggins

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

Let me ask you pawns this question...

What is the role of a head basketball coach? Ill inform you:

WIN GAMES Bob Huggins s one of the winningest coaches in history.

That is a Chris Mack thing to say....

The basketball coach represents the university. You and I dont care as much about that because we never attended UC. People had a poor image of UC bball when Huggs was here.

It is not professional bball where I would agree with you. You are representing STATE funded schools in many instances. Mick is one of the highest paid state funded employees in Ohio. Your crazy if you think his only role is to win games.

[bearcat jeff]

Agree with greatone. You are the face of a piece of a multi-billion dollar industry. You are paid to win. You have to also be aware that you are an employee and face of a university. He is becoming a joke and I hate that.

[Thegreatone]

I dont expect Greatone to have the same passion for the university as people who have attended it.

If you think the only role is to win games you are crazy. There are a lot of coaches that have been able to win games that have been fired.

[TheLivingLegend]

There is even more coaches who should have been fired but havent been because they have won games.

Winning games = more money. More Money = happy University.

People forget. Colleges are a business. There priority is surrounded by ONE thing. Making Money.

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

There is even more coaches who should have been fired but havent been because they have won games.

Winning games = more money. More Money = happy University.

People forget. Colleges are a business. There priority is surrounded by ONE thing. Making Money.

You know what got UC a ton of money? The football team having success and representing the school well got enrollement higher than it has ever been.

Why would UC fire Huggins if it was all about winning games and creating basketball revenue? He created a ton of money?

A reputation of a school is so important. I know this because I went to the Harvard of DIII schools - THE one and only - College of Mount Saint Joseph

You should know this.

[TheLongHaul]

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

There is even more coaches who should have been fired but havent been because they have won games.

Winning games = more money. More Money = happy University.

People forget. Colleges are a business. There priority is surrounded by ONE thing. Making Money.

How much money do these schools make that they require state funding?

How much money was Tressel making for OSU? How about Paterno?

[ralph1950]

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

There is even more coaches who should have been fired but havent been because they have won games.

Winning games = more money. More Money = happy University.

People forget. Colleges are a business. There priority is surrounded by ONE thing. Making Money.

Arkansas just fired Petrino, Petrino won a lot of games.

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by TheLongHaul

How much money do these schools make that they require state funding?

How much money was Tressel making for OSU? How about Paterno?

Tons and Tons. Not only in the regard of football revenue but all the establishments around campus. All the gas stations that sell 12 pack of beers. Many many millions.

Which is why you must protect the brand. If P&G is making a ton of money but the CEO earns a really bad reputation and is unstable they will fire him because it could all go to hell any second.

Hiring Kelvin Sampson is a perfect example. Won games. Made money. But you are playing with fire. You want to sustatin and grow the brand and he nearly destroyed that with his actions.

Huggins was slowly destroying UC's brand. My issue was in the manner they chose to do it. They agreed they wouldnt extend his contract. Zimpher dismantled the Bball program.

Which is futher evidence that athletics are not going to determine what the schools does is they dont agree.

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

There is even more coaches who should have been fired but havent been because they have won games.

Winning games = more money. More Money = happy University.

People forget. Colleges are a business. There priority is surrounded by ONE thing. Making Money.

Not true.

Bob Huggins, Petrino, Paterno, Kelvin Sampson, Tressel, Bruce Weber to name a few.

Universities make FAR more money on research dollars than athletics. They need a good reputation to generate interest into research memberships.

IF UC gets into the AAU they will have access to more money than any football or basketball program can generate.

It is not all about sports. Look at endowments. Why doesn't Bama, LSU, Arkansas and Oklahoma have the biggest endowments?

Who does? Obviously Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc.

Of non Ivy league schools? It is a lot of Big Ten school and Pac 12 schools.

SEC football money has NOTHING on research dollars. Vandy has the most money of all the SEC schools. THE WORST football playing school. No other SEC school is in the top 50.

Look at the list. Athletics dont do all that much if the grand scheme of univeristies. They serve to educate, innovate and inspire change to communities.

People look at universities as pro athletics for some reason. It isn't and school administrators dont treat it as such.

[TheLongHaul]

Originally Posted by Thegreatone

Tons and Tons. Not only in the regard of football revenue but all the establishments around campus. All the gas stations that sell 12 pack of beers. Many many millions.

Which is why you must protect the brand. If P&G is making a ton of money but the CEO earns a really bad reputation and is unstable they will fire him because it could all go to hell any second.

Hiring Kelvin Sampson is a perfect example. Won games. Made money. But you are playing with fire. You want to sustatin and grow the brand and he nearly destroyed that with his actions.

Huggins was slowly destroying UC's brand. My issue was in the manner they chose to do it. They agreed they wouldnt extend his contract. Zimpher dismantled the Bball program.

Which is futher evidence that athletics are not going to determine what the schools does is they dont agree.

Yep, Tressel, Paterno, Petrino, etc..made tons of money for their schools and they still got fired. Pretty much agree with everything you say.

However, schools themselves don't make tons and tons of money. That is why they are funded by the state, strive to have large endowments, etc. Their costs are huge.

Also, while a lot of the big schools make tons of money, the smaller schools don't. And a lot of football programs lose money.